The conversation reveals that cabinet members are discussing the Pentagon’s review of the national defense strategy, expressing a range of perspectives on the matter, from advocating for a strong stance against global threats to considering international perspectives, particularly Russia’s, while maintaining a focus on American interests.

Signal Chat Transcript, April 17

Rubio (10:15am ET): Just got off a call with the Pentagon, they are reviewing the national defense strategy.

Waltz (10:17am ET): That seems like a sound decision, considering the current global tension.🌍

Hegseth (10:20am ET): Let’s crush the evil forces, boys!💪

Vance (10:22am ET): Hegseth, let’s not oversimplify things. The complexity of today’s geopolitical landscape calls for a more nuanced approach.

Hegseth (10:25am ET): Whatever, Vance. 🙄

Gabbard (10:30am ET): I hope they consider the Russian perspective 🇷🇺.

Rubio (10:32am ET): Tulsi, we can’t always be in favor of Russia.🤦‍♂️

Bessent (10:34am ET): I agree with Pete, we need a show of strength right now.

Ratcliffe (10:36am ET): Let’s not forget our own interests and allies.

Wiles (10:39am ET): We need to keep our focus on the task at hand.

Witkoff (10:42am ET): And what task would that be, Susie?

Miller (10:44am ET): Interests of the American people, Steve. Interests of the American people.

Kent (10:47am ET): That’s a simplistic way of looking at it, Miller.

Vance (10:50am ET): CJ, I sometimes wonder if you secretly admire Trump.

Kent (10:52am ET): If only I cared about your opinion, Vance.

Hegseth (10:55am ET): We’re not here to discuss personal theories, Vance.

Rubio (11:00am ET): What’s the plan for the next cabinet meeting?

Gabbard (11:03am ET): I hope you’ll be there, Marco. 😏

Waltz (11:05am ET): Let’s keep this professional, Gabbard.

Vance (11:07am ET): I’m currently working on a comprehensive defense policy document. Hopefully, it adds some value to our strategy conversations.

Bessent (11:10am ET): That sounds like a plan, Vance.

Ratcliffe (11:13am ET): I’ll circulate some of the latest intel from the field.

Hegseth (11:16am ET): Gents, let’s crush ’em! 💪🇺🇸

Wiles (11:19am ET): God bless America. 🙏

Witkoff (11:20am ET): Here we go.

Kent (11:22am ET): This should be interesting.

Miller (11:25am ET): I’ll be watching, gentlemen.

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